I mean, it's not the stopping the train, it's we're stopping the train because we believe that that power station shouldn't be polluting. There is so much publicity over that,
that right has got to out at some point and strangely enough, the judiciary seemed to be on their side which does seem to be increasingly happening.
The police, the politicians, well they don't like this because they are essentially culprit but there are a lot of very humane judges around and maybe they're starting to see the light before these other people are.
R.K.: So we need to wrap up here now. I have to say you have written two extraordinary books. You're giving them both away but you also have publishers. Why should people spend money on the books rather than going to your websites and downloading them?
K.F.: Well I don't think they should necessarily. I certainly wouldn't favor one way or another. The only reason to buy a book is if you like reading books. I like reading books. I've always got books next to my bed and it's a very tactile thing. I can't read books online, I find it very very difficult. You can never get me to have a Kindle, it's really not my kind of thing, the physical book that I can just close, I can take, I can take into the bath, I can just read and if it gets wet it doesn't matter, if it gets damaged it doesn't matter, you can still read it. I like that but it's just an option and I suppose the other thing about books is you can pass them on as well. It's a gift.
So buy the book, give it to someone else, and then get them to give it to someone else. I'm really not in it for the money.
R.K.: Well I will say that both of your publishers are really good publishers and the kind of books that they publish. I know one is Chelsea Green and what's the other one?
K.F.: It's New Society.
R.K.: New Society. They're both really good, they both put out the kind of message that I know my listeners and readers want to hear. Keith, it's been a great conversation. I hope it's the first of many-
K.F.: Thanks, Rob.