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Interview Transcript: Marina Sitrin, Author Horizontalism Part 1

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My interview with Marina Sitrin. It was an interview I avidly anticipated doing because of the knowledge she holds and the perspective she brings to the Occupy movement.  She is the editor of Horizontalism: Voices of Popular Power in Argentina (2006) AK Press, published in numerous languages
Marina Sitrin is a writer, lawyer, teacher, organizer and dreamer Marina holds a PhD in Global Sociology and a JD in International Women's Human Rights. Her work focuses on social movements and justice, specifically looking at new forms of social organization, such as autogestion, horizontalidad, prefigurative politics and new affective social relationships.

Marina has just completed with Zed Press, London UK, Everyday Revolutions: Horizontalism &Autonomy in Argentina (2012), and is co-editor of  the forthcoming, Insurgent Democracies: Latin America's New Powers.  Marina's work has been published in: The International Journal of Comparative Sociology, Znet, Yes! Magazine, Upping the Anti, Journal of Aesthetics and Protest,, and Prensa Latina, among others.    

Thanks to Don Caldarazzo  for help editing the transcript. 

Guest: Marina Sitrin

April 24, 2012



Rob:  And welcome to the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show, WNJC 1360 AM, sponsored by and you can listen to other shows if you go to iTunes and look for my name, "Rob Kall," or go to . My guest tonight is Marina Sitrin. She's the author of Horizontalism: Voices of Popular Power in Argentina and it seemed like all the time when I was at the different Occupy Wall Street locales, the idea of horizontalism came at me, and almost always it was Marina Sitrin as the editor of this book whose name came associated with it. So, welcome to the show, Marina!

Marina:   Great. Thanks. It's nice to be here.

Rob:  Now, let me give a little bit more of a bio that I've collected on you. Marina Sitrin is a writer, lawyer, teacher, organizer and dreamer. She holds a Ph.D. in global sociology, and a J.D., that's a legal degree, in international Women's human rights. Her work focuses on social movements and justice, specifically looking at new forms of social organization, such as autogestion, horizontalidad, pre-figurative politics and new effective social relationships.  She's the editor of Horizontalism: Voices of Power in Argentina, published in 2006 by AK Press, and that's been published in numerous languages. And she's just completed a new book with Zed Press, Everyday Revolutions: Horizontalism and Autonomy in Argentina, that's going to come out this fall.

Marina:   Right.

Rob:  You're doing some really exciting stuff here. Now, the one thing on your website - you have a quote that I just love, and I love quotes. I'm going to borrow this and put it on the OpEdnews database. You believe in the power of imagination, and that most all things are possible. As Lewis Carroll reminds us in Through The Looking Glass, "Alice laughed. There's no use trying," she said, "One can't believe impossible things!"

"I dare say you haven't had much practice!" said the queen. "When I was your age I always did it for half an hour a day. Why sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

Marina:   / I do love that quote.

Rob:  / Great quote and reading the book, reading Horizontalism, which I have to say, is kind of "walking the talk," in terms of doing a book that's based on horizontalism and the values that have been manifested at the Occupy Wall Street general assemblies. This is not a book that you wrote and put your name on: it's a book that you kind of introduced, but then in walking the talk, you've created a place where a lot of voices could discuss and share their perspectives on what this is all about. And that's a really neat thing to do, and I don't know that I've ever seen it ever done before like this has been done.

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